Last year I got a serger for free. It came with no manual, no needles, and the wrong brand name on it. I had a very frustrating time making it work again so I thought I'd make a blog post about it.
The reason it was free is that it was on the backroom shelf in the shop where I work (I do suit alterations) and the manager was doing some decluttering and said I could take it. We already have a perfectly good industrial serger there that practically never gets used, so there was no reason to have a broken domestic one as well.My first problem with it was that I couldn't find anything about it online. Not a sniff of a "Reliable Millennium Series" domestic serger anywhere. (I looked around the shop for serger manuals, but it was nowhere to be found.)
From the "Millennium Series" mark I figured it was from about the year 2000, but I couldn't find any indication that Reliable ever even made domestic sergers. Their website only shows industrial sergers and they never responded to my email.This is the text on the back of the machine but it was no help. |
I had not heard of "rebadging", but apparently that's a thing that happens sometimes, and would explain why the Reliable label was just a rubbery thing stuck on with weak glue. So I peeled that off.
I don't know what the point of a rebadged machine is and I think it's quite irritating that anyone would do that.
I don't know what the point of a rebadged machine is and I think it's quite irritating that anyone would do that.
Knowing what make of machine it was didn't help with my main problem, however, which was that the needle holes are ridiculously tiny.
All my standard needle shanks are miles too big.
I said it came with no needles, but it did actually have the broken stump of one old needle in there, which my manager unfortunately lost. (This was before I'd taken it home.)
But before he lost it I'd taken it to Fabricville in a little bag and compared it to every machine needle they had, and all were much too big.
But before he lost it I'd taken it to Fabricville in a little bag and compared it to every machine needle they had, and all were much too big.
I tried ordering 2 different packs of basic Singer serger needles, even though I was skeptical as the shanks looked large in the pictures, and it turned out they were indeed too large. Alas.
I found a store with a list of Singer 14U557 supplies that included DBx1 needles, and ooh, another website that says the width of their shanks is a mere 1.63 mm! How promising!
I ordered DBx1 needles and they were still too big for my serger's stupid tiny holes.
But at least they fit the industrial machine I use at work, so they won't go to waste.
But at least they fit the industrial machine I use at work, so they won't go to waste.
But then! One wonderful tumblr commenter suggested POx1 needles, which have 1.28 mm shanks!
There were very few sites with them listed, and the only place they were actually in stock and available to buy was Aliexpress, where the minimum one could order was 5 packs. (That was 8 months ago and the listing I bought from isn't showing up anymore, but there are search results for a couple others.)
So I bought the 5 packs, and they fit! Finally!! My goodness are they ever narrow. The shanks are round.
Standard needle on the right for comparison. (The length difference will prove to be a problem later.) |
I thought there must be something wrong with the alignment, but after some more messing around I discovered that the looper only bumped into the needle when the presser foot was down, which meant the foot was pushing the needle out of place. (And upon further reflection, an alignment problem probably would not cause a needle-looper collision.)
The cause seemed to be that the joint of the foot was too loose and wiggled from side to side, making one bumpy edge of the foot push into the needle. I tried squeezing the foot with pliers to make the joint tighter, but it wouldn't budge and I don't know how it got so loose in the first place. Instead I simply filed the offending foot bump down a bit.
(I would like to mention that when testing these solutions I first try it with the hand wheel to make sure nothing is colliding, and then when I try it with power I wear safety goggles just in case a needle breaks.)
Still under the impression that I had an alignment problem, I took off some parts of the plastic exoskeleton. In fact, I took off more parts than I needed to, but I did oil all the joints I could while I was in there so it was ok.
I watched a video on fixing serger timing and was still puzzled at first, because it looked like my loopers were more or less in the correct positions. But then I noticed the needles in the video were much higher than mine.
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The highest needle position in the video. |
And the highest on mine... |
Raising the needle bar was easy, as the screw that held it in place was accessible from the side where I'd taken the light cover off, and could be loosened with a small allen key.
But unfortunately I couldn't raise it very much - it only had room to go a few millimetres higher than the original position.
But unfortunately I couldn't raise it very much - it only had room to go a few millimetres higher than the original position.
It was still not quite enough, and things still weren't catching properly.
So I figured the only thing left to do was try to shorten the needles. They were a good 5 mm longer than the standard ones, so I marked the difference on with marker and tried both a hacksaw and a metal file on it. Unfortunately both tools had about the same effect, which was practically nothing.
So then I tried snapping the top off the shank with 2 pairs of pliers (while wearing safety goggles of course) and it popped off very easily! Hooray!
Now my needles were high enough! In fact, at first they were a little too high and I had to lower them a smidge.
Around this time I switched to just using one needle.
It took some more fiddling to get things working right. The tension was all wonky and I'd also threaded one part slightly wrong, but eventually I got it!
It took some more fiddling to get things working right. The tension was all wonky and I'd also threaded one part slightly wrong, but eventually I got it!
WOOHOOOOOO! FINALLY!!! |
I may try re-lowering the needle bar sometime, since it's easier to snap off a longer needle nub than a shorter one, but as long as I position the needles at the right height it's fine this way for now.
I have no idea if, somewhere out there in the vast & confusing world of needle sizes, there's one with the same width but a shorter length, and seeing as I already have 5 packs of these I do not care.
I haven't gotten it to work with 2 needles yet, but I also haven't tried very hard because I don't need 2 needles. The second needle is only really important if you're going to use the serger to sew seams, which I have no intention of ever doing. Much better to finish the edges first and then sew the pieces together.
The blade was extremely dull so I removed it. I may try sharpening it on my oilstone someday, but I don't really think I'll need it. I'll only be using this to finish the edges on cut pieces, and the ends of fabric before washing. As long as I'm careful to cut with nice even seam allowances and put the pieces through the machine at a steady distance from the edge it should be fine.
Plus, it saves me the trouble of having to get 4 cones of thread instead of 3.
Plus, it saves me the trouble of having to get 4 cones of thread instead of 3.
There are a couple of other minor broken bits, but they don't affect the functionality. One of the little tabs that holds the scrap catcher on is broken off, but it still stays in place with just the one, and anyways if I don't have a blade I don't need a catcher.
The inner one is broken, but the end is held in by leaning against the machine. |
The one thing I would like to change is the thread holder attachment, because it's very unstable. It's held in place by one tiny little brass knob thingy that fits into a hole in the plastic casing, and the slightest bump can knock it off, especially if the thread cones are very uneven sizes.
I don't want to glue it on permanently, as I think that would be bad for storage and transportation, but it would be nice to have a more secure way of clipping it on. Still, not a super high priority for the moment. As long as it's sitting still on a table it shouldn't fall off during regular use.
All in all, I think this serger will suit my needs perfectly! And I'm very glad it was free, as I've paid for it with time, effort, and needle money. Though all together I probably spent about 100 CAD on various needles, which is still only a fraction of the price that sergers usually are.
For most garments I prefer to line or flat fell the seams, but I like using serged edges for pants and pyjama bottoms. Previously I'd use the industrial at work, which is only threaded with black and which always needs to be un-buried from the stack of boxes covering it. Or I'd use my mother's if I needed a lighter colour, which requires a bus trip across town. So this will be much more convenient!
I hope this blog post may be helpful to anyone who has similar serger troubles.
I have had times when I thought my serger blade was dull, but it turned out to have been shoved out of alignment by extra thick layers of fabric (this has happened...twice in the 30+ years I've had my serger)
ReplyDeleteI wonder if that serger was given as a promotional item by the industrial machine company? Most of the time rebadged machines have store names or store-specific brands on them (they were much more common when it was much more common for people to sew, although, there at the end, Joann did have some self-branded machines that looked suspiciously similar to some Singers and Janomes)
Huh, I suppose that might make sense, as the industrial machines in the shop are also Reliable.
DeleteI don't know a lot about overlockers, but I know some stuff about badging and I love vintage machine parts mysteries. TL;DR: I think that you need a specific variant of the 2054 / SLx75 / 16x75 needle system, which has a smaller shank, and is designed for overlockers from this family which were manufactured in Japan. I haven't quite figured out how to find this exact subtype.
ReplyDeleteI have a parts list for this family of overlockers (I got it from the old parts.singerco.com site before it went offline). Here's a copy: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oe2RI9uIH3XZLrGpFeao8fuwkcYhzNb-/view?usp=sharing The part number it gives for the needle is N2054-42-14 (the 14 is the size; I don't know what 42 is).
Searching for that turned up this page: https://www.allbrands.com/products/3638-singer-2054-100b-16sz-serger-100-needles-14u23-234#tab_product_description (no idea if the site is legit, but the information about Japanese-made machines needing a smaller shank seems to match up with your symptoms). So I think that this is the right direction to investigate.
Searching for needles for the Pfaff overlocker models listed on that page turns up more information about the 2054 needle system (although some of it is just copied and pasted from the same source). Because needle system nomenclature is awful and confusing, it's not always clear which names overlap with each other and how, and if *all* 2054 needles have the right shank, or only a subset with a more specific name or a range of sizes. All the information I've found about 2054 / SLx75 / 16x75 needles suggests that they have the larger shank diameter, so this may be a special subtype.
An alternative that you could (maybe) pursue is swapping out the needle clamp for one which fits the larger (more common) needle type. But I don't know how easily and inexpensively you could acquire the part, and I'm not 100% sure whether that's the only thing that would need to be changed. It's possible, if the only reason that the Japanese machines use these needles is that they were more popular on the local market at the time, so only the clamp was modified.
More info about rebadging: it's a marketing strategy -- companies import machines and slap their own branding on them. This was huge during the mid-to-late 20th century; e.g. department store brands like Kenmore didn't make any of their own machines; they imported them from various Japanese manufacturers. But it happened to some extent throughout the history of machine manufacturing; the countries that do the importing and exporting have just changed (in some cases machines were rebadged domestically, not imported internationally).
ReplyDeleteThis has led to a lot of confusion down the line; when you're looking at early American vibrating shuttles or those rainbow-coloured 50s / 60s dieselpunk zigzags, for example, the branding is pretty much meaningless and you have to look at various clues to find the "real" manufacturer.
Singer machines are seldom badged (there are a lot of clones of the Singer 15, but they're not *made* by Singer), but the brand was sold in the 90s, and there are some gaps in the internet's collected knowledge about regional manufacturers. It's possible that Reliable (which seems to be this Canadian company https://reliablecorporation.com, per the historical logo from the 80s shown in the timeline on their About Us page) was able to import these at a lower price than they would have paid for them locally, but that in order to do this they couldn't sell them with Singer branding.
I'm not an expert on the legalities (not that these importers always did things legally; I'm aware of at least one Irish importer that straight up lied and claimed that its badged machines were made in Ireland), but there were sometimes loopholes and limitations like this: for example, some sewing machine repair shops sold refurbished cast iron Singers removed from treadle tables and put in portable cases with aftermarket belt motors -- but they had to repaint them and remove the Singer badges.
In either case, it looks like Reliable still sells industrial sewing machines with its own branding.
I had heard of Japanese Singer clones, but only because I recently bought one at a garage sale! It has the name "Gimbels" on it.
DeleteAh, that was a store brand. There's some speculative information about manufacturers here: https://www.doubleveil.net/zssmp/resources.htm#jajc -- if there are symbols stamped into the underside, they may be helpful (but those are more commonly found on the later zigzags than on the earlier straight 15 clones). The Gimbels badge has been associated with Riccar and Sanshin, per this page, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything (these importers often had multiple suppliers).
DeleteOf course this doesn't really make any practical difference; it's just a curiosity. :) I've sometimes found it useful when identifying weird controls on the zigzags (because it can help to track down an exact manual).
It does have some stuff printed on the underside, and I'll get some photos at some point. Currently it's in its wooden case on the floor, next to a table that's covered in parts of a 99k that I'm cleaning, and both machines need to have the cases refinished but I'll definitely post about them here eventually.
Delete(I found both at the same garage sale for 20 CAD each! The cases are in terrible shape but the machines themselves look pretty good.)
I've been missing something silly about the needles this whole time. I understood from your post that the 1.63 diameter is too large -- but is it really?
ReplyDeleteIt definitely looks from your photos as if your needle clamp is designed for flat shank needles. What I'm 90% sure has happened here is that the 2054 / SLx75 / 16x75 system *is* correct (even though it has the same 1.63 shank diameter as DBx1), because the shank is flat. DBx1 is *not* correct because the shank is round (and neither are most other overlocker needles, or the POx1 needles).
You first bought Singer overlock needles. What is the needle system? If it's 2022 / ELx705, the shank diameter is 2.04mm (this is essentially the same needle system as HAx1 / standard domestic sewing machine needles, just designed for overlockers). Definitely too large.
Then you bought DBx1 needles, which should have a shank diameter of 1.63mm -- but not necessarily: at higher sizes, variously reported as 16 and up or 18 and up, the DBx1 shank size increases, and there's a different system you can switch to with a larger needle size but the same shank size. So you *might* have bought a larger shank inadvertently. But!!! The DBx1 is a *round shank* needle. So even if your DBx1 needles are a smaller size and definitely 1.63mm in diameter, they won't fit into the needle clamp holes designed for a 1.63mm *flat shank* needle, which is what the 2054 is!
What adds to the confusion is bad metadata. Because of the shank diameter, it would make sense that the 2054 and DBx1 are compatible, but only in one direction (you can put the 2054 needle in a DBx1 clamp, I assume). That's why some parts sites equate the 2054 and DBx1 needle systems. For example, here are 2054 needles at the site you found: https://www.sewingpartsonline.com/products/organ-slx75-serger-needles The site either lists DBx1 needles under this overlocker model because of this incorrect equivalence in the metadata, or possibly because the machines *not* made in Japan use DBx1 needles.
The tiny round shank embroidery needles you tried fit because the full round shank with a smaller diameter fits inside the truncated flat shank holes made for the larger diameter.
I agree, the 1.63 mm probably would have fit fine if they'd been flat, but alas. The broken stump from the old needle that got lost was indeed flat and a bit larger than what I ended up getting.
DeleteYep, the Singer needles I bought are EL/705, and they fit my Singer 15 sewing machine.
The shanks in the pictures that show up when I search 2054 / SLx75 / 16x75 do look like they'd fit! Ah well.